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A little more on Suicide Squad and DC movies musings…

Looking over the news today, I found this tidbit at box-office mojo regarding last week’s movie take up to August 21:

Suicide Squad Threepeats at #1 while Ben-Hur becomes latest big budget flop

This summer has been an interesting one when it comes to expectations and internet fueled opinions.  Batman v Superman was the first film to face the internet firing squad well before it was actually released.  After its release, opinions appeared to be divided between those who hated the film and searched far and wide for any little or big reason to justify their hatred and those like me who defended the movie and felt it was…gasp…quite good.  Great even.

I’ve stated before (to the point where I’m in danger of beating a dead horse) that BvS, especially in its director’s cut version, is a far better film than the critics and some internet posters made it out to be.  In time (what the hell, I will beat that dead horse) I believe the film will rise in people’s estimations and may become viewed as one of the better superhero films ever made.

Once BvS played itself out, the sometimes red-hot internet hatred found its next victim in Ghostbusters.  Much of the venom, sad to say, came from people who claimed the film was “sexist” because the leads in the film were female.  To those I say: Please look up the term “projection”.  The only sexism in Ghostbusters was the one coming from those who accused the movie of it.

Nonetheless, the film didn’t do all that well at the box-office.  While I enjoyed it and recommended it, I was nonetheless not too surprised to find it underperformed.  While I still believe the movie was good, even I’ll admit it never reached that next gear of hilarity that really great comedies hit.

As the summer died out, one of the last “big” films to be released was Suicide Squad (you knew I’d get there eventually, right?!).  As I’d written before, I was curious why this film would be the next big DC tent pole versus so many other properties out there they have.

Despite that feeling, the first few trailers of the film blew me away and had me hoping for a genuinely entertaining work.  Sadly, the film, to me, proved to be a mess, storywise.  Despite that, I nonetheless enjoyed the bulk of it after its very rocky start.  Perhaps it was the performances or the giddy vibe it sustained but I didn’t feel like I’d just wasted my time and hated myself for spending my time and money on it.  On the other hand and unlike BvS and Ghostbusters, there was no way I could recommend the film to anyone.

Nonetheless, Suicide Squad is, as the article above points out, doing quite well at the box-office.  Now in its third week of release, it is still #1.

Which makes me wonder…

The critics hated BvS, liked Ghostbusters, and hated Suicide Squad.  Yet of the three, the ones that made money were BvS and Suicide Squad.  Clearly there’s a disconnect here and I wonder what it is.

BvS, as stated, had plenty of negativity from critics and many on the internet but, as I stated above, there was stuff in the film that even the harshest critics would agree was good.  Ben Affleck’s Bruce Wayne/Batman, for instance.  Or Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman.  The cinematography (even the film’s harshest critics can’t deny the film at times looks gorgeous, even if its palette is dark).  But moving past all that, there is a solid story, IMHO, here.  One that is far deeper than many are willing to admit and/or recognize.

Which is something I can’t say about Suicide Squad.  Despite this, the film is drawing tremendous amounts of cash.

Which leads me to wonder why the DC films made as much as they did given all the flack they got.

I’m just guessing here, but I think part of the reason is that fans are starved/primed to see big budget versions of DC comic heroes.

Marvel, for better or worse, has dominated the movie landscape these past few years but after so many films, there may be a sense of fatigue starting to appear regarding the “Marvel style” hero movies.  The fact is that all the Marvel Universe films thus far have displayed certain tendencies.  This is not surprising given the fact that the same people who run the Marvel show have been behind it since its inception.

When one gets a new toy, its shiny and beautiful and you play with it to your heart’s content.  But after a while, that shiny new toy no longer entertains you as much as it once did.  With the Marvel Universe films, they were shiny and new and intriguing but I’m wondering if audiences are starting to see through the “magic” and that shiny new toy may become just a little bit dull.

While Captain America: Civil War made a tremendous amount of money (more than BvS) over its run, I find it fascinating how little people talk about the film now.  Those who do are just as likely to disparage it, noting its plot was weak and the film, overall, was underwhelming.  That’s not to say everyone who writes about the movie does this, but it is curious how even now BvS can inflame passions and create a commentary hurricane while CA:CW engenders far less enthusiasm.

So, is it possible people are starting to tire of the Marvel movies to some degree yet remain thirsty for superhero films?  This might explain why Suicide Squad, despite its many deficiencies, manages to hold on to the box office pole position.  Despite its many weaknesses, one thing you can say about Suicide Squad is that other than having a cast of super-beings, it is nothing like a Marvel film and so too was the case with BvS.

Sometimes, variety can indeed be the spice of life.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (2016) a (early!!!) review

The official release of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (ie Zach Snyder’s “Director’s Cut” of the film) was supposed to happen digitally on June 28th and via BluRay/DVD on July 19th but, lo and behold, certain digital movie providers are already offering the film in standard definition if you have pre-purchased it.  This was done, apparently, by accident.

As it so happens, I pre-purchased the “Ultimate Edition” of the film via VUDU (you can order it here) shortly after it was released to theaters and have been eager to see the director’s cut since.  This morning I found you could download and see the Ultimate Edition, albeit only in standard definition, since late yesterday/early this morning through either Flixster or Cinemanow.  Since most of my VUDU films appear on Flixster and I have an account through both services, I gave Flixster a look and found…nothing.

I could not download and/or watch the film through the service.  I double checked with VUDU but that service did not allow me to see the film either.

A little while later and at approximately 11 A.M. I gave my Flixster app another try and, wouldn’t you know it, I was granted the ability to download and see the film!  (Just to be very clear: What I am doing is NOT an illegal download…Flixster is a legitimate digital movie service and I paid for the film and was granted the ability to see a SD version of the film a little ahead of its official release and accidentally, of course, as the film shouldn’t be out yet).

UPDATE!!!!:  I understand WB has closed the accidental early release of the film so if you haven’t gotten it by now you’ll have to wait for the official release.

Before I get into what I thought of the film, there was a mini-controversy a few days ago when the movie’s cinematographer, Larry Fong tweeted the following on June 2 regarding the “Ultimate Cut” of this film:

Those who are fans will dig it.  If you hated it, you’ll still hate it.

Then, on June 10th, he tweeted this:

Watched #Ultimate Edition again; now believe EVERYONE will LOVE it!

So, did the movie’s producers “get” to Mr. Fong and force him to hype this new release or was the change in opinion an honest thing?

I’ll get into that in a moment but first let me state the following: I already liked the film.  I thought it was a solid piece of entertainment BUT was keenly aware that certain aspects of it were “off”.  I suspected the fact that some thirty minutes of the film had been cut from the “Ultimate Edition” before its theatrical release was what hurt the movie’s flow.

But let me emphasize: I already liked the film.

So it shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise when I say I also liked the new, Ultimate Edition of BvS.  In fact, I would say you can officially trash/forget about the theatrical cut from now on and, if you have the desire to see the film, stick to “Ultimate Edition” from this day forward.

However…

I tend to agree with Mr. Fong’s original tweeted statement.  If you’re like me and you liked the film, you’ll most likely enjoy the new, uncut version far more.  If you were “neutral” about the film, you may come away liking it.  If you hated the film in its original theatrical incarnation but are willing to give this new edition a legitimate chance to change your mind, I suspect you’ll come away feeling the Ultimate Cut is a definite improvement over the theatrical version.  The big question is, is that improvement enough to change your mind?  Will you come away “liking” the film?

While I feel there will be converts, I don’t think there will be that many.

Why?  Because even though the film flows a lot better and the story “breathes” a hell of a lot easier and certain things that were unclear are much clearer and new, interesting subplots add to the overall story, the film nonetheless retains its essential story.  What the “Ultimate Cut” has done is offer us a far better telling of the story but not necessarily a new or different one.

And for many who hated the film, the movie’s story was the problem in the first place.

Again, this wasn’t the case for me and I came away delighted with this new version of the film.  Your mileage, as they say, might vary.

Now then, let’s get to what everyone wants to know: What’s new in this film?

I’ll get into that but, first…

SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!

You’ve been warned…!

….last chance to look away….!

……All right, here we go….

To begin, the film’s opening dual Batman origin stories (the one we’re familiar with and Bruce Wayne’s witnessing the fall of Metropolis) are essentially the same.  The only “new” scene I detected involved a school teacher/mother leading a line of kids through the dusty haze of fallen buildings.  This leads directly to the child Bruce saves from getting crushed.

From there we move on to the first major difference between Theatrical and Ultimate Cut: The African Desert sequence.  As presented in the theatrical version of the film, even a fan of the movie like me was confused by this part.  In the Ultimate Version the entire sequence makes far more sense, though there may be those who grimace at the fact that Jimmy Olsen is identified by name.

The repercussions of the African Desert sequence involve the testimony of the character of Zahina Ziri, who makes claims of Superman’s cruel actions in Africa.  In the theatrical cut of the film the character appears, if memory serves, only this one time.  However, in the Ultimate Cut of the film her character has an extended subplot that winds nicely throughout the film and ends shortly before the Congress sequence.

Lois Lane’s investigation into the mystery bullet she finds in Africa is also given more room and we’re shown Clark Kent’s reaction to the fact that she withheld knowledge of the bullet from him (Don’t worry, Clark Kent isn’t revealed to be a girlfriend beater).

While Lois Lane’s investigation is given more room, so too is Clark Kent’s investigation into the “Bat”.  In the Ultimate Edition and following Clark’s visit to the Gotham PD, we understand far better why Superman is so stern the first time he meets Batman.

Later on, we’re shown Superman helping bring the bodies out of the Capitol building, a sequence which humanizes him even more.  Later still, it is revealed why Superman didn’t notice the bomb (the wheelchair, Lois Lane finds, was lead lined!).

As for the movie’s climax, it remains mostly intact with a couple of bits and pieces here and there, including Doomsday taking out a helicopter.  After the movie’s climax there are a few added sequences as well, including the already revealed sequence depicting Lex Luthor meeting with what appears to be Steppenwolf, one of the New Gods.  Later, we have an extended conversation between Luthor and Batman in jail where it is made clear Luthor knows who Batman is and where Batman states he intends to send Luthor to Arkham Asylum.

There are also a few more clips presented in the Clark Kent funeral sequences, including more of the wake and Martha Kent finding the funeral expenses have been paid for by…somebody.

Obviously I haven’t given everything away but these are some of the more prominent pieces.

In conclusion, I’ll repeat what I said above: If you liked the movie, you’ll like this version even more.  If you were neutral about the film, this new version may win you over and make you a fan.  But if you really hated hated hated the film, you may find this Ultimate Edition a better overall presentation but still not enough to change your opinion.

Regardless, it was fun to finally see the film as the director intended.

If you have any questions about the Unlimited Edition of the film, please feel free to ask and I’ll try to provide answers where possible.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (2016)

When going online this morning, I found the following on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/4ntwgz/the_ultimate_cut_is_available_right_now/

Basically, various people noted that if you pre-purchased a digital copy of the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, it was as of today available for downloading and watching, albeit in SD format, via Flixster or Cinemanow.

I pre-purchased the Ultimate Edition via VUDU but many of the films I buy (not all) are watchable via the Flixster app so I took a look and…nothing.  Then, about ten minutes ago I tried again and, sure enough, I was able to download a SD copy of the Ultimate Edition of the film!

Unfortunately I don’t have the time to see it in its entirety right now but I did watch the first few minutes and can verify this screencap:

Is legitimate.  This is the way the movie’s title is presented.

I’ll offer my full review of the Ultimate Edition soon but, meanwhile, if you have pre-purchased your digital copy of the Ultimate Edition of the film, I can verify you can download it through Flixster.

UPDATE:  It appears WB has stopped this accidental early release of the movie and you can no longer get it as I did.

So this happened yesterday…

They dropped a new trailer for the “Ultimate Edition” of Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, and its chock full of new scenes:

I don’t want to once again get into my defense of the movie (as anyone who has come here regularly knows, I thought the film was terrific even as I acknowledged it seemed hacked up/disjointed at points, something I suspect this “ultimate” edition will resolve), but there was one comment on YouTube with this trailer by “fero player” which, if you’ll pardon me for doing so, I’ll reproduce here in its entirety:

Batman’s entire character arc in this film is about him becoming a hero again. He’s introduced here as the monster, the devil in the shadows. Taking down criminals not to save these women, but for a lead on Kryptonite so he can destroy Superman. The murder of Robin by The Joker and watching Superman’s battle with Zod destroy Metropolis has broken him. He feels powerless against a cruel world he can’t control any longer, and that rage has turned a good man cruel. He now kills to defend himself and other people, and brands the most heinous criminals to condemn them. Cold-blooded murder will be his final step. When he hears Superman use (what he thinks is) his dying breath to beg him to save his mother, he finally sees that he has become the villain. It’s not about their mothers having the same name. It’s about Batman realizing that he is no different than the monster who killed his parents and created him. In throwing down the spear and saving Superman’s mother, he also saves himself. Anyone who looks at that entire scene and sees nothing but a shitty Step Brothers meme, they wrote BvS off before it was even filmed. They already hated it because they didn’t like Man of Steel, or they don’t like Zack Snyder, or they don’t like the idea of DC having their own Cinematic Universe. God forbid that a film actually have subtext instead of lame quips and long-winded explanations.

I present the above because at its heart this is why I found BvS such a compelling movie.  In my original review, I stated the following:

…the Batman we see here is in a fever state.  He’s off his game and very flawed, locked in on the goal of ridding the world of the danger he feels Superman represents.  The more rational Batman we are accustomed to would have realized certain things were occurring and manipulations were being made but because of his rage, this Batman misses them…until it’s almost too late.

In my “second look” at the film, I wrote this:

…it was a surprise and delight the way the filmmakers dealt with the character of Batman/Bruce Wayne.  This was an original take on the character even as it used -and did not ignore- his previous history.  Here we have someone whose world-view has radically changed.  His anger and sense of outrage were inflamed by the events of Man of Steel (we witness that film’s conclusion through the eyes of Bruce Wayne in one of the film’s standout sequences) and this has changed him for the worse.  Batman is singularly focused on destroying Superman, who he views as a danger to mankind, and this singularity in focus makes him fall prey to being used by others…

As presented in the theatrical cut, our primary focus is indeed the story of Batman’s “fall” (his second origin, the conclusion of Man of Steel) and subsequent redemption.  As was mentioned in the first quote, Batman has taken a dark road and was in danger of becoming just like his parents’ murderer (this is why it was important to present, despite the fact that it has been shown so often before, the deaths of Bruce Wayne’s parents).

But what also intrigues me about this new trailer is that it appears Batman’s story was given more emphasis while Superman/Lois Lane’s was whittled down.  Look at the trailer again and you’ll notice many, perhaps most of the new sequences revolve around either Superman/Clark Kent and/or Lois Lane, including a larger African scene, what appears to be Clark Kent investigating Batman a little more, as well as Lois Lane doing the same regarding the African situation.

Was the focus on Batman’s story arc at the expense of a similar arc for Superman?

I wonder.

On 6/28 the Digital version of the film will be released and on 7/19 the BluRay appears.

I’ll be most curious to see it then.