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Sketchin’ 95

Ah, Escape From New York (1981).  I could write pages and pages about this vexing -and much beloved- film.  The visual style of the film was supposedly inspired by the then recently released original Mad Max (1979).  Kurt Russell, who would play the wonderfully cranky Snake Plisskin in the film, was supposedly the one to bring attention to that Aussie film to director John Carpenter.

Ah, but I mentioned the film was vexing.  It is.  I feel the film starts with a HUGE bang. I love the wonderfully wonky plot/premise: That the then future New York is closed off and converted into a prison.  I love the idea of the President of the United States -played with a British accent by Donald Pleasance!- winds trapped in that hellzone.  I love, love, love the first meeting between Plisskin and Hauk (a wonderful Lee Van Cleef) and I love the entry into New York and the bizarre citizens he encounters.

But if I’m honest with you, I’ll tell you to me the film loses steam in its second half, though it presented a hell of an ending, complete with Plisskin’s second and last meeting with Hauk.  But the climax leading to that ending…?  Eh… not so much.  It feels, to me, like the film’s very meager budget weighted what should have been a far more suspenseful showdown between Plisskin and The Duke.

And yet…

Even with that hiccup, there is just so much to LOVE about the film, some of which I mentioned above.  Ultimately, I can’t help but admire the film and feel it is easily one of my favorite John Carpenter directed works (did I mention the soundtrack?  It may well by John Carpenter’s best).

So I love the concept of this future.  I love Plisskin.  I love Hauk.  I love all those other ancillary characters, good and bad and in-between, and, ultimately, I can’t help but love the film.  Even after all these years, I’ll pop it on my television and give it a look see and think to myself…

“Plisskin?  I though you were dead.”

And I’ll keep watching as he proves everyone wrong.

More music…

…though I’m going to avoid David Bowie!

First up, as I’ve been reviewing my latest Corrosive Knights novel (the concluding Book #7!), I’ve been listening to some mood music.

Nothing better than John Carpenter movie scores…  Among my all time favorites are these two, from Escape From New York and Assault on Precinct 13:

There is something so gripping about this music and so appropriate to the movies they come from.  This is something that makes John Carpenter’s movies (many of them) so unique: The director is also the writer (or co-writer) and also created some of the music!

Before I go, and apropos of nothing at all, the Talking Head’s music video to their song Road To Nowhere.  While I’m not a big fan of the video (it does, IMHO, get pretty silly), the lyrics and message behind the song is incredibly touching and sobering…

Here are the full lyrics to the song:

Well we know where we’re going
But we don’t know where we’ve been
And we know what we’re knowing
But we can’t say what we’ve seen
And we’re not little children
And we know what we want
And the future is certain
Give us time to work it out
Yeah
We’re on a road to nowhere
Come on inside
Taking that ride to nowhere
We’ll take that ride
I’m feeling okay this morning
And you know
We’re on the road to paradise
Here we go, here we go
We’re on a ride to nowhere
Come on inside
Taking that ride to nowhere
We’ll take that ride
Maybe you wonder where you are
I don’t care
Here is where time is on our side
Take you there, take you there
We’re on a road to nowhere
We’re on a road to nowhere
We’re on a road to nowhere
There’s a city in my mind
Come along and take that ride
And it’s alright, baby, it’s all right
And it’s very far away
But it’s growing day by day and it’s all right
Baby, it’s all right
Would you like to come along
You can help me sing the song
And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right
They can tell you what to do
But they’ll make a fool of you
And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right
There’s a city in my mind
Come along and take that ride
And it’s alright, baby, it’s all right
And it’s very far away
But it’s growing day by day and it’s all right
Baby, it’s all right, yeah
Would you like to come along
You can help me sing the song
And it’s all right, baby, it’s all right
They can tell you what to do
But they’ll make a fool of you and it’s all right
Baby, it’s all right
We’re on a road to nowhere
We’re on a road to nowhere
We’re on a road to nowhere
We’re on a road to nowhere

 

As with everyone else, I imagine, I experience days that are sunny and bright.  There are days that are frustrating/annoying.  There are days that are rainy and sad.  Sometimes, you have days which are a combination of all of the above.

To me this song encapsulates those emotions and life in general.  Time flows and ultimately the end will come to all of us.  In two hundred years, will anyone remember you or I and the gamut of emotions we experience in our lifetimes and, most importantly, will they matter all that much?

They probably won’t, so make the best of your day and, in turn, life.  This is not a dry run and this is not a rehearsal.  This is the real deal.

You need to make the most of the time you have while you can.

Sketchin’ 16

Moving from a genuine hero in Flash Gordon to perhaps my favorite “anti” hero…

Of all the characters presented within the movies John Carpenter made, my favorite is easily Snake Plisskin, as portrayed by Kurt Russell.

While I feel Escape From New York, the movie that gave us that character, is far from perfect, there’s little doubt that Snake Plisskin is the real deal.  Love, love, love the character.

The issue I have with the film is that it starts so damn well but seems to run out of steam in its later third.  I feel part of the problem is that the movie’s budget caught up with John Carpenter’s vision and he wasn’t able to make the extravaganza he was hoping for.

Still, Escape From New York is nonetheless a favorite film of mine, if only because of Kurt Russell and that crazy bad ass Snake Plisskin.

For a man so many thought was dead, he sure has a hell of a lot of life in him!

Lockout vs. Escape From New York…the final judgment…?

Last week Friday and after a few months, a French Court hearing an appeal by Luc Besson, producer and “original story” creator of 2012’s Lockout, decided the man had indeed ripped off John Carpenter’s 1981 film Escape From New York.  The original judicial judgment was for €80,000 but this new decision upped the penalty to €450,000.

Read all about it here in an article by Germain Lussier and presented on i09:

A French Court has officially deemed Luc Besson’s Lockout a rip-off of Escape From New York

So, not only did the appeal fail for Mr. Besson, it failed pretty damn spectacularly as his original penalty judgment was upped nearly six times.

Here’s where perfect 20/20 hindsight comes in: I suppose in retrospect Mr. Besson should have just taken that original judgment and accepted it then simply moved on.

I wrote twice before about Lockout, first offering a review of the film in which, among other things I stated this with regard to the “similarities” between the film and Escape From New York:

My younger, more strident self (as opposed to the more mellow person I’ve since become) might have been furious that Mr. Besson (who is also listed in the credits as having the “original idea” of this film!!!!) would so cavalierly rip off another person’s concept.

Later, when the initial case was brought before the French Courts and Mr. Carpenter won, I also wrote about that and had this to say:

…with Lockout vs. Escape From New York, there is very little doubt that one inspired (or, as the French court ruled, “ripped off”) the other.  Whatever you may think of Lockout, good or bad, if you’re familiar with John Carpenter’s film, you instantly see the similarities…and they are quite significant.

As I writer, I have my own ideas regarding “original” story concepts.

There are those who say there’s no such thing as an “original” story and that any form of similarity between stories is worth nothing more than a shrug.

I disagree.

Copying a story concept is a question of degree.  You can isolate all the individual elements in Escape From New York and Lockout and decide nothing in the film is original.

For example, you have a lone borderline villainous anti-hero in both films (been done, see Kiss Me Deadly to Fistful of Dollars to The Road Warrior)

You have an impenetrable/unescapable prison where the protagonist has to escape from (been done, see Escape From Alcatraz, The Great Escape, etc.)

You have a mission which must be accomplished by a certain time or else (been done, see Mission Impossible movies and TV shows, Wages of Fear, Smokey and the Bandit, etc.)

You have questionable allies helping your hero do his thing (been done, see Where Eagles Dare, The Guns of Navarone…hell, most of the movies based on Alistair MacLean novels)

You have a strong, flamboyant villain and his even more flamboyant right hand man (been done, see almost every James Bond film)

You have a very important person you have to get out of there (been done)

I could go on but I think I’ve made the point of many of those who do not feel Lockout is a rip-off of Escape From New York.

HOWEVER, what Lockout did which many other films did not is take these individual elements found in Escape From New York and present them in pretty much the same order and way but with one cosmetic change: Setting the story in space.

Otherwise, they are essentially the very same works.

And that is a step too far.

Lockout vs. Escape From New York…

The movie Lockout, starring Guy Pearce and Maggie Gracce was released back in 2012.

When it reached home video, I reviewed it (you can read the full review here) and noted how the film appeared to be producer/writer Luc Besson’s updating/remake of another, very famous sci-fi film:

When I first saw the trailer for Lockout I was intrigued.  My younger, more strident self (as opposed to the more mellow person I’ve since become) might have been furious that Mr. Besson (who is also listed in the credits as having the “original idea” of this film!!!!) would so cavalierly rip off another person’s concept.

“Another person’s concept” referred to the fact that Lockout was essentially an outer space version of John Carpenter’s 1981 film Escape From New York.

Anyway, the film came and went and I thought, for the most part, was forgotten.

Not so.

It would appear someone involved/has right to Escape From New York sued the producers of Lockout for copyright infringement in a French court (Luc Besson and his production company hails from France)…and they won the case:

French Court Rules Luc Besson’s Lockout Ripped Off Escape From New York

What’s fascinating in today’s day and age is seeing the various comments below the above article.  Many, many people seem to acknowledge Lockout does indeed rip off Escape From New York’s (and its sequel, L.A., for that matter) yet do not feel the court ruling is appropriate because so many stories out there could be interpreted as being derivative of other stories.

To which I say yeah…but

As a writer, I most certainly draw inspiration from the works of others and would never claim to create things “in a vacuum”.  The fourth novel in my Corrosive Knights series, Nox, has a plot that was inspired by my having watched, for the first time since seeing it in theaters, what I still consider one of the worst James Bond films ever made, Moonraker.

And yet, if you were to watch Moonraker and then read Nox (or vice-versa), I seriously doubt you’d see any major similarities between either works.  Indeed, had I not admitted I was inspired by the Moonraker movie, I seriously doubt anyone, even my most dedicated fans (you’re out there somewhere, right?!), would have ever linked the two works together.

But with Lockout vs. Escape From New York, there is very little doubt that one inspired (or, as the French court ruled, “ripped off”) the other.  Whatever you may think of Lockout, good or bad, if you’re familiar with John Carpenter’s film, you instantly see the similarities…and they are quite significant.

You have a rogue anti-hero who gets incarcerated and, at the same time, a high level official (in Escape From New York its the President of the United States, in Escape From L.A. it’s the President’s daughter.  In Lockout, its the President’s daughter) is trapped inside a highly fortified prison “city” (New York, L.A., and in Lockout’s case, a Prison satellite) where the inmates run the asylum (after a fashion they do so in Lockout) and our hero is forced to get inside this highly dangerous setting and rescue the high level official before time runs out.

Sure, individual elements are seen in many films/books/stories.  You have thousands of stories involving a rouge anti-hero.  You may have thousands of stories involving breaking someone out of a “impenetrable” prison.  You have thousands of stories involving tight deadlines and dangerous missions, where failure to fulfill the mission in time means death.

But what makes the case of Lockout vs. Escape From New York so obvious, to my eyes, is in the fact that all these individual elements were put together in virtually the same manner with one major exception: One movie took place in a space station while the other took place in a dystopic Manhattan.

Otherwise, you’ve got the same story.

The producers of Lockout were ordered to pay €80,000 for their infringement, but they are appealing the ruling.

Interesting stuff.  I’ll be curious to see how this all shakes out.